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  Why Do Atheists Struggle So Much Against God Who Supposedly Doesn't Exist?

  by Perry in

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  an athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.

  this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .

  as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?

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  LisaRose: So believing in order and reason makes me a believer? Fat chance. You are making a giant, incorrect assumption, that lack of a creator would always and only result in chaos. Can you prove that? You can't, anymore than you can prove God exists. Evolution, which can be proven, shows that life did arise out of chaos.

  Amen to that! ... except for the last sentence. (Evolution says nothing about how life arose. Abiogenesis hypothesizes a number of scientifically plausible scenarios for the origin of life.)
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  Governing Body new Branch letter begging for donations !

  by ToesUp in

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  i just want the governing body to know how "happified" i am today.

  keep sending those branch letters to the congregation(s) about sending your donations in.

  not only did you humiliate the rank and file with your tony morris tight pants talk but now you are begging the same people you humiliated for money.

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  For the life of me, I can't figure out what's so extraordinarily controversial about this letter. Watchtower periodically sends letters like these to congregations thanking them for their donations. I have heard letters like this read several times in the past - even before the new donation arrangement. I honestly don't think this letter is worth the excitement that the OP made over it. There is nothing extraordinary about it as to warrant such excitement.
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  Could a JW be DF for celebrating Festivus?

  by Stealth in

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  after all, it's a secular holiday not a religious holiday.. if i was still an active member, i think i would start a new tradition of celebrating festivus.

  most likely no jws would come, but that's okay, it's a famiily holiday anyway.. what grounds would the elders have to disfellowship you?.

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  You know, the word Festivus does seem to have a Latin ring to it ... perhaps pointing to it's pagan Roman origins?
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  your favourite Christmas music , and merry Christmas to you all

  by jhine in

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  i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .

  it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .

  please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .

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  Colleen Grant - Latin Parang:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VTgObSpoA

  Singing Francine - Parang Parang:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i5T2-6jGBw

  Singing Francine - Ay Ay Maria:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThHWkHmJgTM
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  Life On Mars?

  by metatron in

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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-finds-evidence-of-life-on-mars-9929510.html.

  perhaps life in mars would be more accurate.

  also, recent study of martian meteorites have yielded organic material.. .

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  I think it's possible. But I think Europa is an even better candidate for life.
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  Governing Body business cards

  by LogCon in

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  Quick! Do a human hot dog in tight pants one of Tony Morriss III!
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  I'm having fun with this Christmas stuff!!

  by truthseekeriam in

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  here is our puppy proof christmas tree.. .

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  Have fun!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VTgObSpoA
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  Greek Mythology influence on New Testament

  by Magnum in

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  2. bible

  a few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.

  as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.

  why would bible writers have used such terms?

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  Island Man

  The virgin birth of Jesus appears to be a borrowing of the virgin birth meme found in many pre-christian myths about the births of demigods. Note too that Matthew 1:23 appears to deliberately twist Isaiah 7:14 to support the ingrafting of this pagan virgin birth meme into christianity. Isaiah uses the word "maiden" meaning simply a young woman. But Matthew twists it to say virgin. So the whole virgin birth story of Jesus is based on what appears to be a deliberately false transation/quoting of Isaiah 7:14 in an effort to incorporate a popular pagan meme into the new christian cult. In many respects christianity is a sychretic religion that combines Judaism with pre-existing pagan traditions. A lot of the pagan traditions are in the form of pagan stories rewritten within the gospel narratives with tweaks here and there as they're applied to Jesus. But most christians are unaware of this because they are unaware of these ancient pagan traditions and stories that clearly inspired the NT.

  This video is recommended viewing (fast forward to the 27:45 mark where actual lecture starts):

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILldt2XHZw0
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  New light scripture??

  by Daisychaindream in

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  i've seen it mentioned in a few posts and i didn't want to high jack!

  can anyone explain what this is about?.

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  Any time JWs quote Proverbs 4:18 to justify changing teachings you simply reply by telling them to read Ephesians 4:14 and 2 Timothy 3:7:

  "in order that we should no longer be babes, tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error." - Ephesians 4:14

  "always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." - 2 Timothy 3:7
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  "The Friends"

  by FeelingFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

  never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

  is it just used in america?.

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  Island Man

  " My old-timer Uncle in Brooklyn refers to them as "the friends" and yeah, it sounds creepy/culty as can be."

  Yes but not as creepy and culty as "the Slave" in a statement like "This is what the slave is telling us"